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Describes childhood, cultural traditions and protocols, and ancestors. Topics discussed include cultural adaptation, collectivist and individualist cultures, and xenophobia. Saucedo recounts the decision to emigrate to the United States and the experience of acclimating to rural Virginia. Discusses the birth of her daughter, the September 11 attacks, attitudes toward immigrants, and returning to Mexico. Describes moving to Waynesboro from Mexico and the birth of her second daughter. Includes references to experience as an undocumented immigrant and permanent resident. Saucedo also comments on her university experience, bilingual education, Blue Ridge Community College education, and administrative work at a hospital. Discusses move to Harrisonburg, political and civic engagement, naturalization, and citizenship. Describes experience as Executive Director of the Valley AIDS Network and innovating the food pantry to serve the community. Describes operating an inclusive childcare center, Arcoiris Day Care, that centers social and environmental justice and anti-racist education. Recounts planning Spanish language public programming, children’s services, and collection development for the Waynesboro Public Library. Describes community organizing in Harrisonburg and running for Harrisonburg City Council in 2018. Discusses gender identity, perspectives on early childhood education, teaching English in Mexico, and community. 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Discusses the birth of her daughter, the September 11 attacks, attitudes toward immigrants, and returning to Mexico. Describes moving to Waynesboro from Mexico and the birth of her second daughter. Includes references to experience as an undocumented immigrant and permanent resident. Saucedo also comments on her university experience, bilingual education, Blue Ridge Community College education, and administrative work at a hospital. Discusses move to Harrisonburg, political and civic engagement, naturalization, and citizenship. Describes experience as Executive Director of the Valley AIDS Network and innovating the food pantry to serve the community. Describes operating an inclusive childcare center, Arcoiris Day Care, that centers social and environmental justice and anti-racist education. Recounts planning Spanish language public programming, children’s services, and collection development for the Waynesboro Public Library. Describes community organizing in Harrisonburg and running for Harrisonburg City Council in 2018. 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So, as a child, I experienced the US as the place you went for shopping, where they highlight the dollar stores, and you know, that kind of thing. I have relatives that live on another border town, right on the border with Eagle pass. So, I would go visit my cousins, and we would go across the border, like, shopping, you know, for bargains and stuff. So that was - my impression of the U.S.. Then, when I had just turned 20, I got married and my then-husband, his dad had migrated to the US when he was young. So, I think he was already a citizen, and so my husband at that time was like in the process of becoming a resident. So, he lost his job, and I was newly pregnant. So, he asked, you know, he was like, let's just go to the US and see if we can have the baby there. Also, my ex husband's mother had died during childbirth when he was born. So he [had a lot of] fear of what would happen. So, my impression with that was that the healthcare was better in the U.S., especially because he was so insistent on, you know, us having the baby here. So, I was kind of like, expecting, you know, coming to like a big city, and just kind of like what you see on TV and a lot of like, shops and nightlife and all of this stuff. Well, we came to Greenville, Virginia [Paloma laughing]. So, there was absolutely nothing but cows there. So it was just a big shock, because I just didn't know rural U.S., you know, I thought it was all lights and bargains and, you know, a lot of like, buzz and things going on. Yeah, it was just really, really depressing, because there was just nobody, you know, other than us. So yeah, that was my first experience with the US.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2.4,154.44"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: So what do you remember about living in Mexico before you came to the U.S.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=155.31,164.28"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I lived in Mexico, pretty much all my childhood up to my, you know, early adult years, I was 20 when I came to the US. So my whole life was there, you know, my family, relatives, childhood, school, you know, everything. I mean, I don't know like specific memories - I guess I remember the street where I grew up and my grandma's house, and my friends from school, my first job, everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=164.31,193.17"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Was there anything in particular from living in Mexico that left an impression on you that you can think of kind of affects your day to day life, or I guess maybe aspects of culture or experiences you had that you have just kind of held on to while being here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=197.31,212.01"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, I think I've held on mostly to the traditions around death and dying, and about ancestors. And just like, you know, family values and cherish and respecting elders. So, for the day of the death, we always have an altar at the house, and we have pictures of - our ancestors that have passed, like my grandparents. I think that's like the number one tradition I have held on to and I mean, culture was completely different in Mexico, and I was not long ago talking to a co-worker, and he's black, from the south. And we were talking about how in both our cultures, like if you're in the neighborhood and someone that you know lives there, you just like pop in and are like \"Hey, how are you?\", you know, and people be like, \"Hey, come on in\", you know, stay for dinner. And we both found out that in you know, white culture like that does not happen, [Paloma laughs]. So, the first time that I did that, and just showed up at someone's house like the look on their faces was like, you know like what what, who died like why are you here unannounced. People definitely were not like, inviting, you know, like, Oh, yeah, come in, and let's eat our food that, you know, we were planning on eating anyway. So, just like a lot of cultural differences. And so I have learned to, you know, adapt and be okay with that. And like, I don't show up in my, you know, whites, my boyfriend's homes, but with my Latino, or black friends or, you know, folk of color, like it's acceptable, and we actually can do that, and, you know, they can show up at my door, like, it's fine, we just, you know, we do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=217.38,340.65"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: That's awesome. So, would you say that's more of like a community oriented kind of culture, as opposed to what you found here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=340.65,348.51"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I would say so, I think in Mexico, there's still this culture of collectivism, and I have found that the U.S. is very, very individual individualistic, and the whole, like, you know, lift yourself by your bootstraps kind of thinking, I feel like in Mexico, just from, you know, seeing my parents and my grandparents, as I grew up, we were - we didn't have money, we were pretty much poor as well, but we always helped, like, you know, there was a family in the neighborhood that didn't have food, and we have a saying that, you know, [Speaking In Spanish] which basically means, like, when you're making beans, like, you just throw more water in it to make it like, look like it's more and more filling, but it's still the same amount of beans. But you share with, you know, with whoever needs it. And I feel like in this country, especially with the last administration, the previous administration, that sense of like, you know, you're like - everybody's on their own and has to fend for themselves, and, you know, pull yourself by your bootstraps, like really just came, you know, up a lot like, and with, with COVID, and, you know, those the stimulus checks and all of that, like, a lot of people just like, saying, like, you know, people don't - shouldn't be helped or shouldn't be getting money or, you know, etc. And I just saw it different in Mexico, like, it was like, you know, you were part of this big collective, and what happens to one affects everyone else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=355.38,452.01"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: So is that kind of something that you're not exactly used to in the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=452.04,457.83"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: No, I mean, I guess, you know, not that I'm not used to it, I think, you know, we, as immigrants, get used to, you know, pretty much everything and, you know, some things are not good to get used to, you know, but you get used to the racial slurs, and you get used to the, you know, just the - you know, the xenophobia and all of that going on, and it's not that you, like, accept it, but at the same time you know that that's how people are, and so you just go on with your life, [you know, in the way you can?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=467.82,503.52"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: So, when you first got here, I am assuming maybe those are, even some of those negative things are things that you kind of experienced and maybe you expected it, or maybe you didn't, but what motivated you to kind of get through that initial transition period where you were in a rural area that you weren't expecting, and maybe, you know, didn't love as much, what kind of motivated you to get through that time in your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=503.52,524.91"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So it's actually a very long complicated story. So we were here, and my ex you know, at that time was in the process for his green card, then my baby was born, she's now 20 so she's not baby anymore. She you know, was a citizen, and she was born on August, 2001. So, then September 11 happened and my parents were like, just really worried because they were watching all this news about you know, everything that was going on. And of course, you know, that time the anti-immigrant sentiment also kind of like just you know, exacerbated and it was more anti-muslim but at the same time, like I have found that a lot of people just like hear an accent or see different, and to them like you're just the other so it doesn't you know, they're not going to find out if you're Muslim or Mexican or whatever. So we actually went back to Mexico, but my Ex couldn't really find a job there. We were both, in Mexico, English teachers. And at that time, like he just couldn't find a job. So he, he was living in the U.S., and I was in Mexico as a very young mom. So, I decided that even if I didn't like it here, that, you know, for my family, and for my child, I would come back. So I came back. Then we moved. Then the funny thing is, my ex husband was like, well, this time we're going to live in a city. And so here I am, again, you know picturing a big city like New York or something. And we go to Waynesboro! [Paloma Laughing] Not exactly, but definitely not as rural, and so then my second child was born. And we were there for a couple years, all of this time I was undocumented, so I couldn't work. I was just like doing volunteer work for the churches and doctors and things like that. And so then, my Ex and I separated, and I went back to Mexico. But I think like the thing that motivated me, and I think, you know, it's pretty much the same, or, you know, a lot of - like, first generation immigrants, experiences, like you stay for your children, you know, like, I felt like, you know, they, their dad had already set a life here, and he had a house here. And I wanted them to have the opportunity to grow up and be close to their dad, and just have the opportunities that maybe I - I don't know, that I would have had in Mexico or not. And just like that stability of, you know, having the support of their dad. So yeah, I decided to stay here and make it work. And then finally, in 2011, I got my green card. And with that, once you get it, like you have to come to the U.S., like if you don't come to the U.S. in like a certain amount of time then you lose that privilege.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=534.39,723.45"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: [And if you don't mind me asking what was your experience being in the United States] undocumented versus like, now when you have like, all the things that you do now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=723.45,731.25"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, you know, of course, being able to work, you know, and not have to, like, I mean, I had all kinds of jobs, I cleaned houses, I cleaned gym, I sold hot dogs on a corner, you know, I did everything that I could, and there were times that I would work like a whole day for like $20 you know, and so as a documented person, you you can make a - at least a minimum wage. So that's a big difference. Another thing that I encountered to a lot was when people know you're undocumented, sometimes they equate that as like being uneducated, or just like unskilled. So without, you know, when people would ask about, you know, my experiences or what I did in Mexico they would be like, really shocked that, you know, I started University in Mexico and that I had a professional job. So, kinda like always, you know, trying to, to not take it personal, you know, like, dispel that myth of like, you know, undocumented means one thing or being Mexican means - you know, another thing - and I always run into this, like, Oh, you don't look Mexican, or you know, you don't sound Mexican. And that's actually pretty offensive, you know? And I feel now as a citizen, people are less likely - I mean, they still you know, judge you by your accent and you know, everything but because you're a citizen, people are less likely to right away assume that you know, you don't have an education and again, you know [we could] get into the whole education system and how messed up it is and privileges and all that but I think that was knid of like the number one thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=743.19,863.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: And did you know English before coming here, like was that even a factor of people maybe making assumptions about you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=863.4,867.42"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So I did know English. I learned English in Mexico when I was very young. I was like 10 or 12 years old. And then I went to bilingual school for most of my life. So, you know, I was pretty much not, maybe not as fluent as I am now, because you know, been here 20 years, but like, I definitely knew English. But still when I came here, like the accent was so different, you know, like the southern drawl, like, I learned English, you know, it was usually from like, like British institutes or you know, teachers that had learned like British English so it was like completely different form like the everyday English in Virginia. But yeah [Paloma laughing] it took a minute to get used to it [Paloma continues laughing].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=880.35,927.15"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: So you said you started out in Waynesboro - definitely the accent would have been present there [Olivia laughing] - but what brought you to Harrisonburg, and what was your experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=927.15,931.68"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, when I got my green card, it was 2011. I could finally get a job, right. And I could go back to college, I went to college in Mexico, but I didn't finish because I came to the U.S so I did only like two years. So my priority list was; get a job enroll in community college. So Blue Ridge was, you know, it's kind of like in between Harrisonburg and Waynesboro. So, I enrolled at Blue Ridge, and I was looking for jobs, and the first job that I got a call for, and I was actually hired was as a, like, front desk clerk at the hospital for the family birthplace. So, I was living in Waynesboro, going to school and Weyers Cave and working in Harrisonburg and that was every day. Plus, you know, two kids that I had to like, get a sitter for after school and all that. And at the same time, I started becoming really involved in Harrisonburg politics, with different like organizers and organizing groups. So, it just felt like I was spending most of my time here anyways. Like on the weekends when I didn't work and my children were with me, we would end up coming to Harrisonburg. Anyways, so I decided to just move here, and I moved here around that time and continued to work here. And I really liked Harrisonburg and, you know, I felt like I've made - a, you know, kind of like settled here and, you know, met my partner here. He's now my husband. We have a child together. And, yeah, Harrisonburg's a good place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=944.25,1043.88"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: With your community involvement in Harrisonburg, what motivated you to get involved in politics specifically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1054.89,1061.1"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I think that before moving to Harrisonburg and before being documented, I was definitely, like, on the know, but I wasn't involved because I was just really afraid, you know, that my status, you know, would just compromise my living situation. So, when I was in in Waynesboro, like, I was kind of like, informed of what was going on in Harrisonburg in, you know, the area and nationally or whatever, but I never wanted to participate in any kind of like, protest, or march or anything like that, because, you know, just being undocumented, like, you're always in fear. And I feel that, you know, once I became a resident, although you're still kind of like, you know, vulnerable, because you're not a citizen, and even as a citizen, not having been born here, like you always feel vulnerable, and like that can be taken away. But I think having that, you know, opportunity of being documented, I felt like I could do more for the community and with the community. And I also felt that, you know, it was so hard to get that green card, it was so many years. And, you know, so much is like trauma and pain, and, you know, dealing with immigration and all that. And not everybody has that chance, like not everybody gets the opportunity to be documented. So I felt like I needed to use my privilege in a way that I could help others in the community that maybe didn't have that privilege.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1064.52,1162.05"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Okay, so you talked about, like, when you were undocumented kind of being just like a general, there's just like a general feeling of fear. Maybe that because you could, you know, be sent back or just pressed about a lot of things that you wouldn't have to worry about otherwise. What was that experience in raising children when you were also experiencing those kinds of feelings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1164.42,1190.1"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: Oh, well, I mean, you're always like I said, you know, you're always kind of like in fear and kind of like living in the shadows and, you know, like not wanting to like maybe use the benefits that, you know, the government programs that your kids and your family can benefit from because you're just afraid that that's gonna lead into, you know, some sort of like action against you. When I was going through the separation with my Ex, although we're, you know, totally fine now, you know, 20 years later, at that time, it was, you know, just very difficult and it was a big struggle. And I did not, like, I did not even want to try to get child support from him, because I was afraid that that would affect, you know, my, the opportunity to get - to become documented. So, yeah, you know, and of course, you know, making $20 a day or $50 a week, definitely makes it hard to, you know, for raising two little ones. So, yeah, it was just a lot of trying to figure out, you know, and, and you're dealing with all of this, like, I was gonna have enough food to eat this week, and, you know, am I gonna be able to get a job that I can do this week, am I going to be able to make grand this week. And at the same time, like, your kid has a function that you have to go to, and your kid is, you know, doing cross country or soccer and, you know, you still need to be a present parent, and be part of all that while having to navigate this whole other, you know, system in life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1193.01,1297.41"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: [How do you think that experience affected your job as a teacher has affected your job as now running a daycare?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1297.44,1308.3"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Olivia repeats herself due to technical difficulties] How did that experience that you just talked about affect the way you go about your job as a teacher or running a daycare now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1308.3,1336.65"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, you know, having experienced - life as an immigrant, and a single mom, and as a queer person coming out later in life, in a different country, in a different community, definitely all of that has impacted my work and who I am today. So, everything that I have done, like work wise, has been in my social services or human services, and I've always felt like it's - I'm in a good position as a human, you know, having, you know, being bilingual, and having now, you know, a college degree and having the opportunity to work those jobs to, like, close that gap, and advocate for, for people like me. You know, for people that have had the same experiences as me. One of the things, I remember when I was working for Valley aids network, we had a food pantry. And when I became the director there, one of my first priorities was to, like get that food pantry, like fully stocked in, you know, like, just make it - a place where people didn't feel like they were getting a handout, but where people were like, oh, like, it's nice to go there. And, you know, we can go there and pick foods that we're actually going to eat. And somebody had asked me, like, why was that so important to me? And my answer was, well, because I was once living off food bank food, and when you get 20,000 cans of green beans, you know, and a box of mac and cheese, like, what do you do with that? [Paloma laughing]Like, how do you make dinner for your kids with that, you know? So, we always made sure that we had kind of like, like a meal pattern, you know, like a meal plan. So people could actually get items that they could make a full meal with, [instead of] just like, random cans of vegetables that nobody eats, you know, and peanut butter. And now as a daycare provider, we are really focused on social justice and having an anti racist curriculum. We talk about environmental justice, we do our own gardening to teach the children about environmental justice, and we're very [Paloma pauses] - we are very intentional on inclusion. So even the words that we use, for example, we don't define family as like, Mom, Dad, children, you know, like family is anybody that lives together and cares for for this child, you know. So your family can look like, you know, something completely different from my family or their family. We try to use inclusive language, you know, and teach children about inclusion. And so yeah, definitely trying to - you know, make this generation truly not just, you know, claim that diversity and like, Oh, you know, we're, we're kind of like filling the quota. And, you know, checking the box, like, yeah, we have a Latino child, and we have this ethnicity, or this language, but really showing these children, and my child is, you know, part of this cohort, that diversity and inclusion goes beyond checking boxes, you know, it goes beyond, you know, like, a slogan or a picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1340.34,1568.31"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: And has the pandemic affected at all that community you have created in the daycare, or have you seen the ways the pandemic has affected different groups more than others?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1569.36,1584.93"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, at the beginning of the pandemic, we had to close the daycare, because there were so many unknowns, and the state had closed, the schools and all of that, so we closed, and, of course, you know, that impacted families because they didn't have childcare, and impacted me financially, because, you know, I wasn't getting paid for services, and it impacted my staff. And as we have seen, you know, with a pandemic, and really with everything, you know, in anything bad in general, in this country, like people of color are, you know, [are greatly] suffering more, you know, with the pandemic, and they are, you know, we're less likely to get a vaccine, we're less likely to get care and more likely to die of COVID. And, you know, so all of that is happening. And so the way that I felt like I could do my part in my community, we started waiving enrollment fees for the daycare, so people didn't have to pay an enrollment fee. We also, you know, our families know, that we're, you know, we work with them. So if, if anybody was impacted by COVID, and, you know, couldn't pay their tuition that month, like we would, you know, be happy to, you know, figure something out. And with my staff, I increased their wage from - we always started with a living wage - but we started paying $11 and now we're up to, like, $15.75. And so definitely, you know, as a business owner, that's probably not like the most financially sound decision for me, like, I'm not like, you know, making really any profit. But at the same time, to me is like, this daycare is not like a business per se, it's like, a way of building community and making this community better and more accessible. And, you know, bringing bilingual education, you know, to children from birth, you know, not have to wait till they are a certain age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1590.81,1723.53"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: You seem very community oriented. Do you think you would have been that way in any community or have you just really found, like, a place that you're passionate about in Harrisonburg?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1726.02,1737.9"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I think I'm definitely, you know, community oriented. And when I was in Waynesboro, I used to volunteer at the Public Library, they had a program there, that's called Mother Goose, which I think they have like in every library, and they do like storytime and that kind of thing for little children. But they didn't have any services in Spanish. And they didn't even have a book section in Spanish. So I came to them and I was like, Hey, you know, like, I like how can we make this better? Like, I live in this community, I'm part of this community, you know, I speak Spanish and I would like to see my culture represented. So, I don't know what they're called - the director, whatever, at that time, he was like, okay, you know, like, let's do it, like, can you do the program? So I actually did the Mother Goose program in Spanish at the library as a volunteer and we grew the book section, the Spanish section, and we actually had an alter for the Day of the Dead for a couple years. So definitely, I think, you know, I probably would have done the same or been the same in any community, but I think the difference is that the community that I have found in Harrisonburg has allowed me to grow in this role of, you know, community organizer and community builder and, you know, be able to be connected in that way. I lived many years in Waynesboro, but I definitely didn't have like that same sense of community. Here I just have found, you know, my friends and family and yeah, I really feel like definitely has made a difference being here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1742.52,1853.58"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Yes, okay. What aspects of your life now do you think might be different had you not found kind of the comfort of the community you have in Harrisonburg now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1856.7,1868.85"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I don't know. Um [Paloma takes a moment to think] I don't know that I - If I had lived in an another community or a different community, I don't know that I would have ran for city council. I think that was - you know, one of the reasons I did it was because I definitely felt that I had that support network around me that would help me run this campaign and, you know, be there throughout the whole process. So I think, you know, that would be the one I would think of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1874.91,1912.92"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: As far as your identity in Harrisonburg, what kind of communities have you found yourself leaning on the most for your community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1914.03,1927.71"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, definitely, you know, when I came to Harrisonburg, it was actually in Harrisonburg that I actually came out as a queer person. I had lived - I had been in the closet for many, many years. And so definitely the the queer community in Harrisonburg was a major part of my life and, you know, continues to be as I get older. Yeah, the LatinX community, you know, immigrant community, refugee community, those communities that I kind of identify with have been the community that - are the communities that I kind of, you know, lean on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1931.97,1974.18"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Was there anything in particular that may have made you feel more comfortable coming out when you decided to? Were there any factors that went into that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1974.81,1986.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I didn't know anybody that didn't identify as other than straight in Waynesboro, and the only kind of community there was - or, you know, that we were part of, and by we I mean my Ex-husband and my kids - was the Catholic Church, because he's very involved with the Catholic church. He has worked there forever, and still does. So that definitely was not the place [Paloma laughs]. At least have the time I didn't feel like it was - I don't know now. And when I came to Harrisonburg, I started to meet people that were just open about their identity. I had not encountered that, and that definitely made a big difference for me, like, I can be myself. I don't have to worry so much anymore. And, you know, of course, still at work it was different, you know, I definitely wasn't open at work.  Although I had been, you know, open about my identity in all the time that I've been in Harrisonburg, still, when I ran for city council, there was a lot of just, you know, just not very nice comments, you know, about my identity and all of that. But, yeah, I think as far as it making an impact, I think it was, you know, being able to make friends that I identify with that were being who they were and living their lives, you know, as who they were, and I thought that was really nice. And I could do too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=1991.37,2091.84"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: So you said something about running for city council again in answering that question. Do you think that being connected to all these different communities within Harrisonburg gave you any kind of confidence for running? Or what main things were you interested in when deciding to run for city council?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2091.84,2115.45"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: So, when deciding to run, you know - I've always been really passionate about social justice, and there were many things and continue to be many things happening in Harrisonburg that I feel like need our attention and need to be highlighted and addressed. So, that was part of my campaign, you know, to bring those issues to light. Yeah, I mean, definitely being part of these different communities made me feel like - not only the confidence and you know feel supported, but at the same time, like it was my core responsibility to - to kind of empower these communities and lift these communities up and their voices up so that they could talk about issues that they were experiencing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2122.53,2174.94"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: [Question cut out of audio] [So, I guess, if we are talking about the daycare - what is something that is really important to you, like, in your passions to kind of put on or leave an impression on  the kids?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2174.94,2178.99"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: [Audio cut out, not recording] - social justice values in an anti racist curriculum, I think, as a country, in our society at large, we have made the mistake of not talking about race and thinking like, Oh, you know, children don't see color, and they don't need to know. And look at the racism we have. It's everywhere, it's in our institutions, it's in all of our systems. So, definitely, you know, moving away from that Eurocentric, male-centered, Christian-centered curriculum that has been imposed, you know, throughout history, and making it more about social justice. And what can we do as a community and as a collective? And why is it important to work together? We don't do like the whole, like, pilgrims and whatever, for Thanksgiving, like, no, like, your child will never come home with a project on that [Paloma laughs] if they're going to my daycare. But we talked about Malcolm X, and we talked about local leaders of color, like, mayor Drina Reed is Sam Macklin, who passed recently, and, you know, for Black History Month, all these important black people that children don't learn about because we like the whitewashed version of Dr. King. So, we talk about Dr. King, and we do a quick craft and that's it. You know, that's how we deal with race in our culture. Right. So for me, it's like, no, let's talk about, you know, why do we even have to have a black history month? Oh, well, because black people have been oppressed for centuries. You know, and this is a way to highlight the good contributions of black people. For November instead of like doing Thanksgiving, and like the pilgrim theme, we do Native American Heritage Month. And we talk about how Native American children were taken from their homes and sent to special schools where they took their language and their culture and, you know, all of this. And of course, you know, we do it in a way that is not like super dramatic for children, like we have childrens books that, you know, help children understand this. But the other day, I was actually working on one of my assignments for my Masters and so I was like, reading out loud, and I was doing something on race and disparities around race, and my three year old says, Oh, yeah, Mommy, like she calls him \"junie Jr\" -  Martin Luther King, Jr - Like \"junie junior\", the white kids were mean to him! So, you know, they they do listen, and they do understand and they will mode what we do. If we really want our children to be able to talk about race and talk about privilege and talk about all these things that we have been, you know, putting under the carpet for so many generations, and now we don't know how to deal with it, we need to start doing it at daycare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2178.99,2398.02"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: So did you ever teach when you were in Mexico?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2401.35,2405.31"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2406.24,2406.69"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: You did. Okay. How is that different from all of these social justice issues that you are bringing into the classroom now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2406.9,2416.53"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: Well, so in Mexico, I taught kindergarten one time, then I had like, after school programs, and I taught adults, you know, all through university, and I did conversational skills for adults. But there was also a time where I taught in a very low income school district. And it's really hard. First of all, you know, it's really hard for children to do much when they don't have appropriate clothes and appropriate food. And so it was just so impacting for me as a young adult, and as a young teacher, to try to understand how the educational system, how our school systems wanted us to teach - At the time I was in Mexico and was teaching English - this English, this language content, when children were coming to school without having had a meal the day before and a meal that morning. So, definitely having lived those experiences makes a difference in how you view your community and the privileges you have, and, you know, being like, what the schools are doing [about] sending lunches to kids, and having to drive by food pickup and all of that, like, that's definitely just a privilege that the children don't have in Mexico. So, yeah, just being appreciative of that, most of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2418.3,2535.06"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: How do you see how your role as a teacher has changed from teaching students without those kinds of privileges now to with, how do you see your role has changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2536.62,2550.45"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I don't know. I mean the kind of work that I'm doing now with preschool and daycare is different from the teaching that I did in Mexico. Because I had grade school, and it was usually like a content class, like grammar or spelling. So, I guess I wasn't as involved in those children's lives for as long as I am with these little kids, like with the children at the daycare, I mean, we have babies that started here in their early months of life, and now they are three years old. So to see them change from that little baby that, you know, wasn't crawling, to this three year old that's talking your ear off, [Paloma laughs] you know, about butterflies or whatever topic we're doing is definitely just a different experience. It's just like a very fulfilling experience, and being able to be there for parents, you know, being an older mom, and having children - My stepsons are in their mid 20s, then my own kids are almost 20 and almost 19, and then my little one is three years old - So to be able to be there for new parents and it is their first child, and they're like, Hey, you know, is it normal for my kid to be doing this or not doing that, and being able to share that experience and like empower moms and dads, or, you know, families to make decisions. And empowering them about choices around how to raise their children or whatever. So, whatever input they want, and or if they don't want any that's good, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2557.26,2678.85"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: What is the name of your daycare?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2690.64,2692.44"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: It's Arcoíris, and it means rainbow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2694.3,2697.6"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Okay, cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2697.9,2698.98"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wanted to ask, since you spent a big portion of your life in Mexico, and you've also spent a considerable amount of your life here, where is home for you? And kind of how do you define that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2701.08,2713.2"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: Nowhere [Paloma laughs]. I don't know. I mean - I think this is a question that has come up and comes up, you know, many times, and I feel like for a lot of our immigrants - our heart is in our country, you know, we grew up there, or grandparents lived and died there, or, you know, relatives are there. But we also have made a home here, you know, with our children and the chosen family that we have met here. So, it's kind of like really hard. Honestly - I don't even think about - sometimes we talk about, like, oh, when we're older, we'll go to Mexico and you know, find a nice spot and live there, but then we think - we're not gonna know anyone. So it's gonna be like starting over again. So I think, you know, as an immigrant, you're always like, kind of like floating between those, like, two countries, two languages, two cultures and two homes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2715.69,2778.81"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: And you said you won't know anybody anymore? Do you have families still in Mexico?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2781.72,2787.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I do, I mean, I have my siblings there, and my parents, but when I think about, you know, when I'm like, hopefully, if I get to live like my grandma, you know, till she was 102. Like, if I get to be that old, I probably won't know anybody. My parents got to be 130 years old, or whatever, you know, like, definitely, you know, the only connections at that point would be my siblings, it will happen, you know, to to be alive at that point. But, you know, the friendships that I once had as a kid or teenager, you know - they may not be there, they might have moved out or no, you know, it's kind of like, hard to think about that. And also having seen my grandma, all her siblings died before she died, you know. So you never know, like, what the future is going to look like. We try to plan but not too far, nott too far ahead into the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2790.45,2854.5"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: What is it like having your siblings in, like, in another country? And your mom and dad and your family? Yeah, I'm assuming? Maybe, maybe close? Maybe not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2855.1,2865.57"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I mean, thank goodness, now with technology, it's really nice to be able to like FaceTime. Or call, you know, my, my sisters, my brother on WhatsApp and get to see like their families. And I've seen that change, you know, from 20 years ago, when I came to the U.S. that the only way to call home was to buy one of those like phone cards that you had to scratch the pin on. And you know, you made the call. And then it was like you have two minutes left and had to say all your goodbyes in, in two minutes, to now you know, my three year old saying, like, I'm gonna call grandma and you know, getting grandma and getting to show her, you know, her new shoes or whatever. So I think, you know, we have found new ways of being closer and a new meaning of - what does it mean to be close? When I lived in Mexico, we were all close, not only, you know, like, like, a close knit family. But we were literally like, close, like, we lived in the same street, like all of us, like my brother, my sisters, you know, my mom. So, you know, if I wanted to go see my mom, I had to walk half a block, you know, and I was at my mom's house, you know, having lunch with her, whatever. And so as an immigrant, you know, of course, you don't have that anymore. And you have to, you know, if you ever get to travel, you have to plan it and it's expensive, and then you're only there for a little bit of time. So just finding, you know, those, those new ways of being close in, you know, with technology, like taking advantage of that, and, you know, we've had further parties where, you know, my family is in thier home in Mexico like singing happy birthday, you know, live, you know, to my three year old that is here, and so, yeah, just finding new ways to stay close.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2870.88,2982.18"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: And do you think that your move to Harrisonburg and kind of the community that you've found here is - would you do that again? Have you enjoyed being here as opposed to maybe imagining raising a family in that situation that you were in before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=2983.08,3003.03"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: I don't know - when I talk about these things I always think about my grandma, and she always had these like sayings in Spanish that I wish I could think of in English. But I think I would have been okay. And I think, you know, my kids would have been okay. And I think, you know, we, me and my kids are resilient. So I think we would have, you know, like, made it, you know, or been happy, you know, wherever we were. I don't know that I would ever say like, Oh, I would do this or not do that, because I think my experiences have shaped who I am today, and I'm okay with who I am [Paloma laughs]. So I don't know, you know, that there were many things that I would have done different. Yeah, so I don't know, I I'd never really think about that. I want to think and I want to believe that, you know, we would make a happy living or, you know, a home wherever we went.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3009.36,3074.01"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Okay, awesome. Well, is there anything that you would like to add?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3074.73,3079.02"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paloma: No, I don't think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3085.23,3086.1"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Olivia Comer: Okay. It was so nice to meet you. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. I can't wait to look back over it, and put it together, and show you and everything. Thank you. And I'm so sorry about the technical difficulties. I don't, I don't even","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3086.1,3101.04"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know, I'm glad we were able to figure out the sound. I was like, oh, and it's so funny. My mind is still pre COVID. So when you told me about this, I was like, Oh, I wonder what we're going to meet and you know, all of this. And then I'm like, of course we're not going to meet like, you know, nobody meets anymore. We can do this on the computer. So, but yeah, I mean, I definitely like the ability to do this and connect with people without having you know, to live my bedrooms, anything else they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3103.35,3132.66"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think of or anything, just email me being contact whenever you want. And, you know, live on zoom so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3132.69,3140.43"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3142.92,3143.73"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"though, we all know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3144.51,3145.47"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. All right. Well, thank","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3146.64,3148.95"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3148.95,3149.37"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468/transcript/77639/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bye","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3230/collection_resources/145475/file/268468#t=3152.16,3152.85"}]}]}]}