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All right. This is January 20 [2023]. It's a Friday, we are at the Lucy Simms Center and we are interviewing Mr. Sam Ewell and his sister, Mrs. Rohrer, Ms. Ewell as well. So... And the interviewers will be Brody Sigman and [speaking simultaneously] Sierra Flowers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=7.0,14.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSierra Flowers:\u003c/strong\u003e [speaking simultaneously] Sierra Flowers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=26.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBrody Sigman:\u003c/strong\u003e Alright, let's get started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=28.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=30.0,33.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBrody Sigman:\u003c/strong\u003e So, first thing that we'd like to ask you is just how it is being back at the Simms Center. I'm sure it's been--it might have been a while since you've been here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=31.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e It's been a few years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=39.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBrody Sigman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=40.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e No but I was here a couple of years ago. Maybe there was a dance or, last time I was here, there was a dance on. You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=40.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBrody Sigman:\u003c/strong\u003e That's fun. Dances are fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=50.0,53.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e I've seen it, you know, just redone. 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And another memory that I had was going down to the cafeteria that was in the downstairs area. And I remember lunch was 25 cents and I always had to make a big decision. I can either buy the full lunch for 25 cents, or I can get the hot dog and the ice cream sandwich and water. So, I always did like hot dogs and I still like hot dogs today. So it was always a toss up. But the lunches were, you know, full-course, they were a very well-balanced meal. I do remember that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=482.0,489.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmm hmm. Good food. 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[speaking simultaneously] It's bad stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=564.0,567.6"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e [speaking simultaneously] It's a gourmet dish. It's gourmet. If you're a bum. 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Either you accept it or you don't go to school. So we, you know, being in elementary, didn't like it. Because, well, we came from Farmville and we... I went to first and second grade in a one room school. And they had all 12 grades in that one room, with an outside john. In Farmville. 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The whole school participated. Never any violence, dysfunction, none of that. It was amazing. 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Ok, walking into the Simms Center, which was the old Simms School, I know that there wasn't a lot saved. Like, reserved, a lot of it is modified and a little bit more modern, like the projectors and everything. Do you think that it takes away some of the memories? 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Well, third, fourth, and fifth, that's three years. So I have fond memories, you know. I remember exactly how it was. And of course, upstairs was high school. 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Did you guys know about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1063.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. We knew a family called the Moats. They lived in Moatstown in West Virginia. But that was, eventually they got their own school. So you know, I remember I'm vaguely remember some students from West Virginia. But they  weren't here [unclear]. When I was here they, I vaguely remember, but you know, they weren't really. Because they built a school over Moatstown in that area there, so obviously they had to come across the mountain. But can you imagine having to come from Moatstown, West Virginia to come to school every day?  Man. 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Big on that. Yeah. And respect. You know respect for [speaking simultaneously]. [speaking simultaneously] And respect. That's right, respect for teachers. I don't know what's going on in high school today but I'm willing to bet is not as intensified as it was back then as far as manners and respect, etc. etc. Because, you know, it was Mr. Giles, it was always Mr. or Mrs. And we never really, with the teachers, we never really mingled. They were over here we were over here. And no one, you know, didn't cross that line. You stay in your place. Absolutely. Because if you didn't you had to go home. And then when you were home you're in trouble. They used to call or whatever get word back to your parents that after the day, whatever, you know. And of course, you would suffer the consequences when you get home. Well we never misbehaved, did we? . No.  Well, especially not me. But now, hey. We called her super B.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1174.0,1181.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e One unspoken rule, or maybe it was spoken, is that the authority, that teachers had authority.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1254.0,1260.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1261.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e And our parents, the parents always supported that authority.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1262.0,1265.599"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e 100%. 120%. Well, our father taught here for some years, so. And of course, they knew us, so the teachers all... We were... Our parents were friends with the teachers. 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And anyway, you learn a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1308.0,1312.799"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBrody Sigman:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you say that connection between your father and the teachers was one of the biggest impacts of having him also teach here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1314.0,1321.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we used to go to teachers' homes. You know, when they visit, we would, they would they would pull some of us along with us. And of course, you know, you stay in his room while they conversed over here. And you stay put too. You sit in the chair and that's it don't move. Until you're gotten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1322.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, in our family, there would have been six of us kids, you know, so we certainly knew how to entertain ourselves quietly. 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Smooth transitions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1394.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1398.0,1401.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e That was a smooth transition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1399.0,1402.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSierra Flowers:\u003c/strong\u003e Speaking of transitioning, when you had to move schools, how as a brother, did you notice the effects of moving schools had on Mrs. Rohrer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1403.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e Hmm, that's a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1418.0,1421.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Hmm, what kind of effect did it have on us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1424.0,1428.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, our experience going to a different school. We went from Simms, which was a very large school. And then of course, we went to a school that was just a three room school. And also one of the differences is that when when we left... We left Simms a year before segregation happened. And when we entered Park school, I don't remember that we knew we were going to a school with all white children. We were not told that. And I guess in our minds, it wasn't necessary to be told. Our parents were a part of a plan to help integrate schools in a peaceful way. You know. And I think the biggest difference, it wasn't the color of our skin, the biggest difference is that I came from a classroom of maybe 20 or 30 kids, and in the classroom there, there were six of us. And I was in the fourth and fifth... No, I was in the third and fourth grade, and a total of the third and fourth grade was probably 23 kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1427.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e What, in Park school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1522.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, and that was two classes. So, the major difference was just the size of the building and the size of the room, and no hot lunch. They did have the ice cream though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1523.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e And also, there was never really a problem with us as far as Black and White. Never a problem. Smooth transition. I've never been involved in a fight in my life; not physically. So, all through school, never any fisticuffs. I was ready. [laughing] But anyway, I never had any problems, even in Broadway when I was the only Black student there. Out of 800 students. I never had any problems as far as any physical altercation, the whole four years. I came close, but then I thought, truly you're not going to win this.  So, you know it's you against 800. No. The odds weren't good, so I kind of had to back up or whatever. I didn't back down, but I reasoned, I said, 'Hold it. You fight one, you might have to fight 30. Hmm... That's not good odds.' But anyway, I came to Broadway High School without any altercations whatsoever. Am I right there Beau? 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You're a Gobbler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1637.0,1640.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBeau Dickerson:\u003c/strong\u003e I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1639.0,1642.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e You're a Gobbler, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1640.0,1643.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e A decade later?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1642.0,1645.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e You were there the 80s? 90s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1647.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBeau Dickerson:\u003c/strong\u003e I graduated high school in '97.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1650.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=1655.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Rohrer:\u003c/strong\u003e '97? So that's two decades. 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I remember that. And walked in a straight line, because he, I remember, he stuttered. He had a stutter. And if he pointed you out, or, what he would do, he would pull you to the side, and have you spell 'Philadelphia' [laughing] in front of your, you know... So the pressure was, you know, and of course, you know, 'sausage' or whatever... I remember that. So, that's one of the memories I have of here. I learned a lot too, so. And, like I said, this is a community school. Yeah. Very, very tight. Because, you know, our uncles went here. Our aunts went here. 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So was there... There wasn't for me because I was a part of the--very very much a part of the Mennonite community from the time I was 10. You know, because we attended the church and we attended in the summer times...to go to Bible school. I think I probably went to every Bible school out there if time allowed. So, that was not--I was already immersed in that community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=2389.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBrody Sigman:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you say then, that the churches were a big center of community for the Black community in the Harrisonburg area? 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I would go and get my penny cookie. Oh, yeah. But the church. We would go to the church, and for Sunday school, and we didn't often stay for the worship service. But I do remember one time that we decided that we were going to stay for the worship service and that was a very... The adults got very, very emotional. They were literally standing up singing, dancing in the aisles, and my aunt did it too. I thought, what are they doing? But anyway, I remember that particular day. And so, then, the church was a part of the African American community. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=2477.0,2484.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that one? Yeah AME. 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And then he had mentioned the grocery store. And we lived close enough to the grocery store that we would--we could walk. 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I don't think you could get anything for six cents.  By the way, I was born in 1954, so I'm not but so old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=2663.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSierra Flowers:\u003c/strong\u003e Thinking about Harrisonburg as a kid to Harrisonburg now, how do you think the city has changed over the years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578#t=2675.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303578/transcript/91235/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSam Ewell:\u003c/strong\u003e Two words. 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They have one lady sometimes that'd give some donuts [degraded audio] no, we didn't have no trick-or-treat. They say in sometime the mothers would have- those [degraded audio] would have their children come and play, and it was supervised. But they said Halloween was devil's work, that's what they called it. But oh my goodness. And I like I said, I really enjoyed Simms school. Because I had to do so much work there. Then when I went to [degraded audio] school, I didn't have to work as hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=85.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e They didn't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=85.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e And you taught for 24 years at Simms school until 1966?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=141.0,145.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Includes '66, I was one of them tenures(?).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=147.0,150.199"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Why did it close?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=151.0,154.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e On account of the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=154.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Desegregation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=156.0,159.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Desegregation. It closed in '66 and I went to [degraded audio] in '66, September of 66. The first thing they wanted me to do was to bring the children up to [degraded audio] to get to get to see the place because I didn't have many black children, because it took them most of winter would [degraded audio] this area. And so I went there to teach first grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=157.0,164.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e First grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=195.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e We had three first grade teachers moved about that's what the date was some more years and see the high school went in 1965. [degraded audio] to do this thing. And then in '66, all the black schools closed. And then just everybody went to the same school and my little niece was 14 work(?) called Mary Anne [degraded audio]. She was 14 and she went to high school over there, and me and one white teacher and one black man [degraded audio] one year. We went to Wegman and when [degraded audio] [Cheryl starts to speak, but Mary continues] We had - it was [degraded audio] country school in 60 before we left up here, and we had a nasty white principal; nasty, he would say the things he wanted to say. And he said that Mr. Moore and me because Mr. Moore was the [degraded audio] teacher, [degraded audio] I told him, \"Let me tell you-\" I forget his name now, I said \"I like children.\" I said \"I like children and I'm not worried about it,\" because I said \"I treat all children alike,\" I said \"If you treat children,\" I said \"children know who they- who likes and who doesn't, and that nobody'd love 'em the way you taught 'em(?) really lazy and since I do, I'm not worried about [degraded audio].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=196.0,203.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Well he said that he thought they wouldn't like you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=324.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e That principal, he was up there for one year, he was there one year we were trying to [degraded audio] his name was Nicholas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=327.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Was he white or black?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=339.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e White. [degraded audio] two black teachers stayed up there. So I went back home to the home community [degraded audio] was real nice and quiet. Now I said \"All I have to do is teach them like I taught the children at Simms.\" [Cheryl says \"That's right.] And that's what I did, and the children loved me too, and they never said anything ugly to me, not the parents either. The parents were just as nice to me as a parent can be. At Christmas time I'd have a shopping bag full of stuff to bring home; some of them would bake me cookies, some of them would send me this and send me that, and the children would bring me things; and the two white teachers, we would have the best time with those children, because they would know music, and I was already doing music for the black school. So I told Mr. O'Donnell, I said \"Mr. O'Donnell, I want a piano for my room.\" I said \"Could I have the piano that's coming from the Simms school, since it's going to close?\" He said \"Oh yes, I'll get some men out to talk to the school board and get somebody to get that piano in your room that you have there, and they'll put it in here.\" And that's what he did. And that piano was there the whole time I was there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=341.0,348.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e [degraded audio] when the children sat around the floor like that. We'd sing all kinds of nursery rhymes and \"Jesus Loves Me\"—that's before we kicked Jesus out of schools—and \"Jesus Loves The Little Children,\" and all those things and Mr. O'Donnell sometimes would come down from his office and he'd stay outside and listen a while [laughs] that's why we'd open the door. He's always [degraded audio] and some days, we take him out on the yard; that's when um, when, one school had a hillside, they cut that hillside down [degraded audio] and at the bottom was kind of a little stream [degraded audio] And so one of the teachers would bring peanuts in the shell [coughs], and [degraded audio] while the children were doing something; throw the peanuts up in the air and have a peanut scramble. [Cheryl laughs] Children scramble for peanuts. All kinds of things we did. And I had the most—even now—the most beautiful relationship with the Waterman(?) teachers. Now Mrs. [degraded audio] died. [degraded audio] This lady's name was white, because she married [degraded audio] Oh, what was her name? She was a second grade teacher at Waterman(?). She died several weeks ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=343.0,350.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh that's wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=448.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e And you taught(?) with her? [Mary says \"huh?\"] You taught with her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=575.0,579.799"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e The bachelor's I got in... [lengthy pause as she thinks] let's see... it must have been... [another pause] in the 40s, it must have been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=575.0,582.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well she was with that group you know, and Caroline Rowling(?),  have you heard of her? [Cheryl says \"mmm mmm\" (no, presumably)] and [degraded audio] all the schools all the teachers at Waterman, they're gone(?), and a couple have died and Mr. O'Donnell's dead, he was such a good principal, and [degraded audio] can you get his stuff together that'll do it? [laughs] While I was up at Simms school, I had been driving(?) and going back [degraded audio] and got my bachelor's. [Cheryl says \"Ahhhh\"] In education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=578.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e What years did you do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=633.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, so it's right after you started teaching then. [Mary says \"huh?\"] Right after you started teaching then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=659.0,666.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, well not right away, [degraded audio] that's the summertime [Cheryl says \"Mhm\"]  [degraded audio] teach in winter and thinking how [degraded audio] this time I get paid on the way.  And also the state gave money to the black students, if you promise to teach in Virginia. [Cheryl says \"Oh?] Well perhaps I'd been up there a long time, 'cause I said [degraded audio] \"Well maybe if I had a Master's, I don't know what'll happen. So before I left Simms in 1952 [degraded audio] that's when I went to New York [degraded audio] Staunton, when I was up there [degraded audio] came to Harrisonburg, he said \"Mary we're going to take teachers from Columbia University. Why don't you come and go with us?\" [degraded audio] And Momma said \"Why do you want to go up to New York City?\" I said \"Well Momma the girls want me to go, and I ain't never been to New York before,\" and I said \"I'm old enough to go to New York.\" [both laugh] So then we started going to New York every summer. And so, we got our master's in four summers and they gave me credit for my bachelor's, they gave me credit for this, which was [degraded audio] to teach this special workshop; they even gave me credit for that. So I just had to go four even(?) summers with nothing left over. So then that way I got my master's degree in early childhood education [Cheryl says \"wow\"]. So, one day I'm walking to school, already had my master's but I don't brag(? about what I have. [degraded audio] Up here. So Mr. Dove down is sitting around and he wants to have [degraded audio] teacher [degraded audio] where the white teachers could go to work or go to James Madison, Eastern Mennonite, Bridgewater, and they had opportunity, to go to any one they wanted to go; but I would have to go somewhere else. [degraded audio] to go walk to school. So [degraded audio] I got grants and things to go to other schools. And so they paid from that for me to go to New York [degraded audio] room and board [degraded audio] paying for your subjects and classes and things like that. [degraded audio] and so I finished that in 1956 [pause before the 6] I guess. And during that time, it was time for graduation, Momma died; and I couldn't go back and get my diploma, but they mailed to me because I wanted to be there [degraded audio] way up there at Columbia [degraded audio]. Oh it was a wonderful summer, bunch of good things they had; I'd be scared to go to New York now. But New York was wonderful. So I stayed up there, I went for four summers [degraded audio] and one teacher had a master's. And he had one, and the rest of them, some still had the normal paper(?), two-year certificates [degraded audio] opportunity and they said \"Hmm, wonder who else up here's got a masters.\" [degraded audio] I just had to come to get one of those [degraded audio] sodas(?), and I said \"I have it. Honey you got [degraded audio] and Lord they were shocked; you should've seen them get down there trying to get their bachelor's [degraded audio] when someone would come [degraded audio] New York, but I did. I came [degraded audio] out of there and my niece has come to see me now. She was born in 1952. Sometime I go by her age, and [degraded audio] and she got her master's from Petersburg University, but they call it uh... what'd they call it over there? [degraded audio] something or other. But she took, she took her bachelor's and master's from there. And then my brother Joe, I think [degraded audio] don't work. [coughs] He had the same problem that I had. [degraded audio] My brother Fred wanted to be a carpenter, he didn't want to have nothing to do with all that stuff. So my brother Joe ended up as a doctorate, a doctorate from University of Virginia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=665.0,672.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e From UVA, he became a doctor. But he's on- I don't think he's on there because [degraded audio], and I cried about it, because I love him so much. And I [degraded audio] to help him in his school, and he was a work student too. Both of us started as work students. And they found what kind of man he was(?), because they didn't even have a bookstore, to sell the books and things, and tabs and papers. He worked at that, when they found out that he was a good guy. And then he had married- he married when he was in the army. And he has three daughters. One is a lawyer and one has a TV show on acro- not acrobats but some kind of physical(?) thing. And the other's um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=1036.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e From UVA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=1036.0,1039.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Aerobics? [Mary says \"huh?\"] Aerobics?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=1094.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, aerobics, and the youngest one is a bank executive and she's in Pittsburgh. He has had three daughters. But we all try to do something. My sister was a beautician. And so we all tried to- and we kept [degraded audio] parents and to do things and so they could be comfortable. And my daddy was 10 years older than Momma. [degraded audio] at Newport News working and [degraded audio] he couldn't get the job. There was nothing to do. But the army needed men to build things and fix things. And Daddy said [degraded audio] what you're saying somebody down there. And he thought he had [degraded audio] that day. He had a heart attack and died. [Cheryl says \"Aww\"] Well, Daddy would always send Momma money by wire [degraded audio] Well he was my grandmother's brother. My grandmother [degraded audio] since my grandmother had passed. She was 79 when she died. And she was Momma's momma [degraded audio] because her husband had died. And so, my uncle came back up to [degraded audio] that evening a telegram cane and Momma laid it on the table there and he said \"Nanny aren't you going to open the telegram?\" and she said \"[degraded audio] to save us some money [degraded audio]\" and then Thomas said to her \"You better open this telegram, your husband is dead [degraded audio].\" Momma started screaming, we girls and boys started screaming, we just- it just killed us and they wanted someone to come and identify his body, and so Uncle Sam said \"Well, me and Mary(?) will go; catch a bus out of here tonight, and go to Newport News and claim his body and Lindsay(?) can come and get it.\" Well my brother Fred had just got home(?) from the army, because this is 19...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575#t=1096.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303575/transcript/91236/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh huh, 'cause they were(n't?) in the army too long, 'cause they take 18-year old boys, and he and another friend from Bridgewater, they'd seen each other, so [degraded audio] and the one boy he said \"No,\" he said \"me and Fred'll go.\" And so Momma [degraded audio] so he and Fred took a late bus out of here—that's when you had good Greyhounds—and went to Newport News and claimed Daddy's body and then [degraded audio] went and got him. My mother got into bed and wouldn't get out. She said \"I just buried my mother so many weeks ago. I can't bury nobody else close like that to me.\" Well here we are, children, and of course my sister, she had a nervous breakdown. Well there I was and there was Joe- no Joe, Joe didn't get home, the Red Cross was [degraded audio] but the army wouldn't let him loose because he was an officer at the army, because he'd had ROTC when he went to University of Virginia [degraded audio] so we had one of these ministers [degraded audio] he said [degraded audio], he said \"Mrs. Awkward, get out your bed. YOU are the one who's [degraded audio], not your children, YOU are the one to go.\" Momma said \"But I can't.\" and he said \"Yes you can. I'll pray for you here, you can go(?).\" Well see Daddy's sister lived here too. Well, Momma got up and tried(cried?), 'cause she had to [degraded audio] clothes and things you know? And so his sister lived here, and she and Aunt Fanny(?) they went down to [degraded audio] and got the funeral together and Mama went home but she was, she decided she just could not [degraded audio] for her husband after her mother died just about six weeks before. But here's another stranger. [degraded audio] and I saw somebody, it looked like a man's legs, sitting by the stool but they couldn't [degraded audio] You couldn't see the whole body; and I went back upstairs, I'd just come midway to get a drink of water downstairs. [clears throat] So I went back and told Momma, I said \"Momma, I saw a man, sitting in a chair by the stove downstairs, and I think it was Daddy.\" Oh man she flew out(?). She said \"You haven't seen nothing [degraded audio], you know your Daddy's still [degraded audio] I don't know what you saw, I don't think you saw anything yet, because you're still not right from your grandmother dying.\" Because our grandmother had, she had a stroke, and still lived with us eight days, or something like that. 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So, Daddy's funeral, my sister couldn't go, she had a nervous breakdown. They wouldn't let my brother Joe come. They said he just went wild because they wouldn't let him come to his father's funeral from the army. Fred [degraded audio]. We buried Daddy; he was sixty-five years old. He was sixty-five, and when he died Mama was fifty-five because he was 10 years older than Mama. Mama didn't marry anymore and in 1952--no, let's see... [pauses] 1955 it must have been, because Mary Ann was born in '52 and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=8.0,15.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e That's Jerry's daughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=85.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e That's, that's one of the girls, that does everything for me now, Mary Ann. And [pauses] that's when Mama died, when she became 65. After ten had passed when she became 65. And both my parents died when they were 65 years old. Mama was sick for, oh about 9 or 10 days clarity and days. She had one of those things where you get blood in the spine. What do you call them things? It wasn't exactly a stroke.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=86.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Where you get blood in your spine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=125.0,128.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And I well remember how we'd go- hers was some kind of a stroke, it was some kind of blood thing [degraded audio], I don't know what they call it now. And so they had her in a dark room and the nurses said \"Now be careful what you say; she can hear you but she can't talk back to you, or say anything. So we go in and talk to Momma, but we kinda, we were careful what we say, as she couldn't talk to us. So it just got so bad to where—and not being able to talk to Mama—so I decided one day I couldn't do it, I said \"I can't take it.\" So Sunday came, and I said \"I guess I'm going today to see Mama. Yes I am.\" That time Dr. Helbert, Hollen Helbert was our doctor, our family doctor. That Sunday morning the doorbell rang, 'cause the kids and I were getting ready to go to the hospital to see Mama, then Dr. Helms(?) said \"Come in children.\" Well me and all of us, me and Leona, and Fred, though we didn't have Joe—I guess, Joe was home from the army, because the war was over. And he said \"Your mother's gone now. Your mother passed away this morning.\" Oh Lord, there it was again [degraded audio], Daddy was dead, and Leona was sick [degraded audio] me and Joe and we did the best [degraded audio] Daddy's funeral from the church. Well, after Mama died we had no funerals or nothing; for years and years, nobody died.  But those were the tough years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=127.0,134.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Now? Did you keep the family home? 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You know, I know that God's been with me, he's been with me through those years, and I wouldn't go ahead and do something against His commands for nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=261.0,268.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Well you've lived 93-and-a-half years, you've seen... 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[Cheryl says \"Mhm\"] [degraded audio] 'cause down on that first floor, you couldn't hardly see anything, but we were up high, and the seats came down like that, and you could see. Oh, I think what I have,  have you heard of Harrisonburg Then and Now? From WVPT? [Cheryl affirms] That's--I'm on there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=372.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e You are? On--about what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=398.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e On the tape, on the, one that has the pictures on it; what you call it? [pause] What's the tape that has the talking and the pictures on it? Because a man from... [pause] [degraded audio] interviewed me. I'm on there, Elon Rhodes is on there [degraded audio]... Wilhelmina, you know Wilhelmina Johnson?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=402.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=439.0,442.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e 'Cause she was the third social worker long time. She's on there and Red Bundy. [Cheryl says \"I know him.] Red Bundy's dead. But, Elon Rhodes and me and Wilhelmena, when people want to know anything, they ask the three of us. [Cheryl laughs] They ask Elon too. They ask Wilhelmina and they ask me. And, 'cause we know more about the things, but Wilhelmina comes from Luray, but she came early in life and lived here most her life, all of her life mostly, since high school days when she married, she married Bud Johnson's son, Edgar, who worked for [degraded audio] for years and years and years. 'Course he's dead now. And all those boys who came along in World War II days are in their 80s, 82 or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=439.0,446.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. Bird is--[Mary says \"huh?\"] Mr. Bird is 84, I think? Wilmer? W.C.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=504.0,509.199"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Who's that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=514.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. Bird over on Dawson street?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=514.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, he's 87(?) now, because he was eighty-something, and [degraded audio] was 80 when he passed away. And my brother Joe is 83.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=517.0,524.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Is he? So back to inventions. Besides the picture shows? What else do you think has been good? Innovations and inventions, which ones do you think have been good?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=529.0,536.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e I would say I know that these others are good, but I'd say that TV kind of opened up the way, because we used to have to play records to get our music, you know? [degraded audio], play records and things. But I think when TV came in, that was the first of the great inventions. Because you could see people from around the world doing things. And the rest of them have improved and improved that one. Even with the internet, all those things they started with TV. [Cheryl says \"right\"] To me the TV is the best one of them, and these others have been added on to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=549.0,556.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e That makes sense [Mary asks \"What do you think?\"] I agree that makes sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=599.0,604.6"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course [Cheryl says \"or communication lines\"], telephone, telephone was wonderful too, but you didn't see anything on the telephone, but you could hear. 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Most of the people down south did that, and Rosa Parks and all of them. 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No. We just had our own things, our own restaurants and barbershops and things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=682.0,688.799"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e What restaurant? What restaurant?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=692.0,695.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Colonnade--that big tall building down there on... what street is that now? Wolfe Street. It's not there anymore, it's been knocked down. A man named [degraded audio (Mr. Petty Brown?)] built that Colonnade. It was a dance hall, a restaurant, a barber shop [degraded audio] business for Black people. They tore it down during that time that they tore down everything in Harrisonburg that was Black [degraded audio]. People's homes [degraded audio] projects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=697.0,704.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e They tore down their homes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=743.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Mhm. Mason Street had some homes, the people named the Tolivers [degraded audio] built a beautiful brick home. Just blow 'em up, but they pay you for it, paid you for it. They didn't pay a good price, but that's because it's gonna make the city bigger. [degraded audio] ...on Mason Street right down there near Mason Street. Those homes [degraded audio] back in there, 'cause everybody owned their own place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=744.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e And they just took them away?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=775.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Took them away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=776.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Eminent domain?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=778.0,781.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e They said they had a real nasty man over at the city there. He wasn't a mayor, [degraded audio] [Cheryl says \"Housing-?\"] Housing Authority [degraded audio]. And he saw to it that their barber shop, and everything they had, except [degraded audio (Ricky's?)] shop, and the stores and, they had a little place called--what people use today to dance and have a good time.  And, so they wanted to take our house. My name was in the paper: that Mary Awkard fought for her home. I didn't miss a meeting. And I knew that they were going to have a meeting. [degraded audio] I made my reasons openly for me to be there. [degraded audio] I said, \"You all are not going to have my home, 'cause my daddy built it.\" And I said, \"It's not for sale.\" And I said, \"Y'all don't need no house,\" because I said, \"It's not on [degraded audio] Street, it's on Broad Street. Y'all said y'all were taking Gay Street, and Mason, but this is Broad Street [degraded audio] it was facing, and it's not going out of here.\" And then they talked around, to the city and they finally- they told me I had to do it. And so they gave me a check for $9,000. At that time the house was beautiful. And so I talked to my brothers and to one of my sisters, I said, \"Listen, I'm going to give it back to them.\" I said, \"They're not going to do that to us.\" So the next time they had a meeting, I said \"I brought y'all your money back.\" I said, \"My brothers know, we grew up [degraded audio] and here's your money.\" I guess he left me alone after that. The house's still standing there. But you see, you gotta be- look I wasn't being nasty [Cheryl says \"right\"], but I was telling 'em through the teeth, that you're not gonna have that house, because my daddy built it. His [degraded audio] was that house [degraded audio] you're not gonna have it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=779.0,786.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e So where did they- [Mary starts to speak again, but then stops and says, \"huh?\"] Where did they expect everybody to go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=922.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e They wanted to get us to come to projects. [Cheryl says \"projects?\"] Projects, 'cause they've got a few of 'em there, you know out on West Water Street and around-- up in this area up on Kelley Street they still got those projects, you paid rent to the city you know? [Cheryl says \"Well that just doesn't make a lot of sense\"] and then a lot of those Black people, some of them got themselves something built somewhere. That's how Broad Street got rebuilt again, because people started buying lots in there, and they had their houses built and then Black churches in that area, because they took our church too, on Wolfe Street, they took our church [degraded audio].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=927.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Well what was their reasoning for taking it, though? I don't understand--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=972.0,976.799"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e [degraded audio], and it was the longest kind of time before [coughs] before anything was built on that Mason Street [degraded audio] seven men came over there. Those lots were vacant for years; and then after a while this tire company came over there. And then the [degraded audio] company came over to Rock Street because [degraded audio] was downtown. I mean, number four. He's over there, over on Rock Street, up on Rock Street. So they had this thing called \"Harrisonburg, Then and Now,\" and that's what they--I don't know- where's is that tape uh... do you know where it is uh... Heather? [Heather replies, \"Yes ma'am?\"] [degraded audio] Do you have one of those machines? I forget what it's called.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=975.0,982.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll watch it; if I can take it with me I'll watch it. [Mary says \"huh?\"] If I can take it with me I'll watch it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1041.0,1048.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Now will you be careful--[Cheryl says \"yes, ma'am\"] I don't want that [degraded audio]. I gave it to that preacher and I said, \"Listen, [degraded audio], I said \"I want that back.\" Now what they did, there was four people that I named to you, but WVPT had this program. They were selling these tapes for 75 dollars. They gave them to only four of us, and they gave each one of us a tape for, y'know, being-- giving the news. Mine was about how the Black people were treated during that time. Red Bundy talked about how he had [degraded audio] to go to the movies. And I think Elon Rhodes talked about the black [degraded audio] how they were done, because he was a barber. And Wilhelmina, she talked about some of the things, then-- then we talk about the \"now\" things, how things have changed. And then I talked about the \"now\" things, how Black people were coming back, and how things were at the school and everything. But they have my picture, I'm on there talking, right in this room like you are [Cheryl says \"Mhm\"] and they had the same kind of-- their machines were bigger than yours. And I wanna say it was three hours long [degraded audio.] And they tell me [degraded audio] that they come back with [degraded audio] [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1047.0,1054.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the library can order a copy, I'll see if we can order a copy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1158.0,1164.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e They might have it, but that there, that's the recent one right there. And [degraded audio], she taught at... which one [degraded audio] schools? It wasn't Spotswood [degraded audio]. She talked about things that happened in Harrisonburg and about their school and different things and I said um... we talked about what we've talked about. And Julian, he's dead and gone now too, well he talked about the police force when it happened. He was on the committee, they had different committees, to talk about different things, they happen to--one time, you know, down the way you pay your water bill. That was a school once, that was a high school elementary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1162.0,1169.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e That was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1231.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Years ago, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1231.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e For white people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1234.0,1237.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e White. And then the downstairs elementary appeared at Effinger. And upstairs was the high school, 'till they built it [degraded audio]. There used to be a racetrack right there, when I was a little girl, [degraded audio] And so that's why the high school was built out there now. Because that new one [degraded audio]. That's the old one. Now, the older school was one of them, built in 1912. [degraded audio] teacher at that time; it was just an old-fashioned school. But...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1235.0,1242.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you think- how do you think education has changed. You taught for... 34, 40--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1290.0,1296.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e 42 years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1297.0,1300.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e 42 years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1299.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e It was 35 in Harrisonburg, 35 years there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1301.0,1304.2"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e How has education changed, do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1305.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Well at that time, education was good. You had dedicated teachers, where they weren't there for paychecks, right? You know what I'm talking about [Cheryl says \"right\"] The generation now, they want paychecks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1308.0,1315.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, it's not a vocation anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1324.0,1327.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Like when I was at the Simms school they started getting some of those folks coming in. Someone said to me one day, they were [degraded audio (rushing?)] on payday. And the, the school board was sending checks up to our school for somebody, and of course you had to go to the principal's office to get 'em Some of them would wait and wait as soon as they thought that [degraded audio] they'd look and see if they had their checks. So then there was somebody in there who said \"Oooooooh, here comes Mrs. Moneybags.\" I said \"What do you mean with that?\" \"Well, we don't see you in the office to get your check.\" I said, \"Let me tell you something. If you got one, I got one.\" I said \"I don't have to peep.\" I said, \"If your check is in that box in there, so's mine. And I go at the proper time when school's out, or if the principal wants to come to the door and give it to me, whichever, but I don't have to peep, to see if it's out here. [starts laughing] So they--[laughs harder] they left me alone after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1326.0,1333.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e And you say that started at Simms school? And you said that started at Simms, that kind of attitude? Where teachers were more worried about pay than...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1401.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh only a few those newcomers, who didn't last very long; first thing we knew they were gone, but the ones who had been there, they didn't bother going around looking for their check, because they knew that they would get their check. Wasn't too big you know, let me see how much was it? It was... $600 a month [degraded audio] I first came to Harrisonburg. Mr. Keister, promised me $100 dollars a month, because I came out of Bridgewater, $50 a month; Staunton, $50 a month. And I was at Bridgewater four years, and the superintendent didn't want me to leave, and he was gonna try to up it but, Mr. Keister, Mr. Keister said \"Boy don't, I'm taking Mary home now.\" [Cheryl laughs] And that's when I came to Harrisonburg and Simms school. He brought me on in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1412.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Now there's a lot of talk today about children too, and Attention Deficit Disorder--[Mary says \"huh?\"] There's a lot of talk about children with Attention Deficit Disorder, and all these HDD, ADD. Did you see much of that, when you were teaching? [Mary makes a sound indicating \"no\"]. What do you think has caused that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1484.0,1491.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you can't correct anybody now, [degraded audio] but it was parents' fault(?) and administration's fault(?) too, because now you'd like--little Johnny would come to you, and little Johnny is five years old, six, little Johnny has a stomachache. Well sometimes if he's crying, you might take little Johnny up on your lap, and pat him on the head; and [degraded audio] a little medication for him, and you can't touch him. And little children love to be touched. Well that makes a hard child(?) he's hard you know? And the whole time I worked at Waterman, I could touch him. not for any kind of ugliness, just pat him on the head or something like that. I'd just pat him on the shoulder or take him by the hand or something like that, or \"You'll be alright honey.\" Especially those children that'd be coming to school for the first time and want to go back home to their mothers; and the mothers'd make 'em stay and wait, and they'd cry. And I'd bring them up to my desk, or [degraded audio]. And often they'd stop crying, and start playing with the other children. But, you're not allowed to do this and that and other, and the children know it. [degraded audio] they'll tell the principal to call 911 on them. Can't even spank your children at home. They'll call 911 on you, and have you arrested. [degraded audio]You know? And, but if you tell the parents what they do--\"Oh no, my boy's not doing that. No.\" And now see my niece came out of teaching here this past year. Mary Ann taught fif- no taught... 30 years in Richmond [degraded audio]. And then she had a master's, then she went to... what's the name of that--Chesterfield, Chesterfield. And that's where she retired to here. And she said \"I...\"--she was teaching middle school. She said \"All those children want to know is about sex and stuff.\" And she said, \"You can't hardly teach a thing. And she said, \"I'm coming out. I'm not really sure what it [degraded audio].\" She said \"Just because you taught 42 years, don't think I'm gonna last as long.\" She said, \"As soon as I make my 30 years, I'm coming out.\" And she did. She quit this year, retired. She said, \"I know enough computer and things like that, that I can get a job. Be in a doctor's office, be a secretary for somebody, or just work in a store,\" but said, \"They're making me sick, they're making me have a backache.\" Said, \"When school starts, that's when my back starts aching. Because I know they gonna get on my nerves so bad,\" and said, \"I want them to learn what I'm teaching.\" And she was an excellent teacher 'cause she had my ways","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1509.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Now you're not allowed to discipline them anymore either. Did you ever have to discipline children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1741.0,1747.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Not too much. I didn't have to be whacking them to do it. Because we did--one thing, I had so many things for them to do [degraded audio] because they could sing, they could [degraded audio] and they had a lot of activities and [degraded audio] high school music. We tell them that if you don't want to sing, we're not going to make you sing if you don't want to; well everybody wanted to. So that's the reason we had 62 children in our choir. Mr. Moore, was the director and I played the piano. Miss Hackman was the school supervisor of music, and she did music at the [degraded audio] high school. Well then she knew I was doing music at Simms, and she come, and we worked together, and we'd have a concert with the community. Miss Hackman would play the piano. And we'd get an organ from [degraded audio], and [degraded audio] didn't charge us, they would loan it to us as advertisement to them. I'd play the organ, and Miss Hackman would play the piano, and we'd practice together. Then we'd do the group, then we'd have the concert. She was on piano—I've got picture of 'em somewhere, and not the picture you saw, but another one—and I was on the organ; and believe me, those children could sing. Oh Lord, we had a Christmas concert, little Christmas tree, well they had candles, and the boys in the shop would make stages so they'd look like that. And the bravest people would stand near the top, and do the Christmas carols, not just any junk, because Mr. Moore didn't allow junk singing, the stuff had to be like \"Battle Hymn of the Republic\" and all the songs that [degraded audio] things that meant something to people, and good hymns, like um... like I said, \"Battle Hymn of the Republic\" and \"Ave Maria\" and stuff like that. We didn't have no trashy music. And he has a nice, gentle voice. When he sang, \"Like A Bridge Over Troubled Waters,\" the tears would run down your face. \"Like a bridge\"--do you know that? [Cheryl says \"Yes I do\"] \"over troubled waters, I will lay me down.\" I'm thinking about those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1746.0,1753.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Now at Waterman, did you get to do as many programs like you did at Simms?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1932.0,1938.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e No, those teachers didn't do as much. They had one [degraded audio] because I had a doll show at Simms school. And we had different kinds of dolls. And we had Indian dolls. I had a group do an Indian dance. The children themselves, or if they had Chinese, they would do a little-- some would have little stuff like that. [degraded audio] We had the dolls in chairs. And the children would dance for 'em. Well, we had that one year I think. I don't know. They wanted to get home, they didn't want to be bothered with that kind of stuff. So I didn't have to work as hard up there as I did at Simms school. They were more [degraded audio]. They did a good teaching job, I'm not saying that, but those extra activities--but they had May Day, though. They had May Day and May Pole winding and things like that. [degraded audio]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=1936.0,1943.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e They don't have much anymore. How did you teach children to read? Using phonics?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2017.0,2022.599"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Phonics and, some of it was... well, I didn't like too much of that. Memorizing, I didn't like much of that. But I would sometimes draw things on the blackboard. Maybe I would have a [degraded audio] and have words printed on the [degraded audio]. See who could go up and get [degraded audio] or something like that. Most of my games that we played, well they were reading words. Or if we had a lesson, we'd make a spelling lesson out of the new words, have a spelling bee, and have them stand up and I had flash cards. That was more like phonetics, and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2028.0,2035.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e 'Cause now they teach them sight context or something like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2077.0,2081.4"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Something like that, I don't know how to teach any of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2082.0,2086.8"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e It doesn't work, it doesn't seem to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2084.0,2087.199"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Lot of children can't read so well now. And we wouldn't let 'em go—if couldn't read—to the next grade. We'd keep 'em, keep 'em another year to be sure that they could read. Because I told the children that if they couldn't learn to read, they wouldn't be able to do anything else that well. I said \"Even your math problems have to be read sometimes.\" And I said \"Reading is the most important.\" And I'd tell that to the little children, and I had big children sometimes. Your English grammar is most important to that too. Because you have to know descriptive words which would be your adjectives, your adverbs, your prepositions, and all those words, you're going to have know what your diacritical marks are, like periods, commas, dashes, quotation marks, and all that kind of stuff. And those are some of the things I insisted on when I went into any high school children that I'd have to tutor sometimes. And science, well you could read that. And of course the science teacher would have you do experiments, and taking things to pieces and taking pieces out of fish and frogs, and all that kind of business. And then, civics, when I got into high school you have to learn civics and your community, how it works, how it operates, and all those sort of things, and what democracy was; and you had to learn the Articles of Confederation. All your presidents and their vices, and sometimes their wives, like that. And part of Lincoln's... address, you'd have Lincoln's--you'd have Lincoln's address...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2086.0,2093.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Gettysburg Address.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2170.0,2173.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Gettysburg, you had to learn that one. By memory. You had to learn your timetables from 1 to 12. You had to recite them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2187.0,2194.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e I had to do that, second grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2235.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e So he was thankful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2237.0,2240.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e [degraded audio] Up here. And some of those things I'm saying [degraded audio]. But you really had to put that into their heads. I told my first-graders and seconds, \"You have to know these things\" I said, \"Because something might happen to your parents, and you might not get to go to school. And you will know something about something. So I just want you to pay attention. Because I'm gonna give you everything that I've got to give. And we had—because I had Latin three years—had Latin. And of course I said, \"That's the basis for a lot of our English words. Right? From the Latin. And so I had three years of that. Professor Harris taught it, because I think he went to Harvard for his school I think, and he was a real, real college professor. But he taught to high school. And then we had good science teachers. Had to do a lot of drawing in there, lot of children asked me to draw pictures of fish or animals or whatever I could draw. My brother Joe, well I thought he was gonna be an artist because he could draw anything. He could draw [degraded audio]. It was--it was interesting. The work was very interesting. But you had to really keep on some children to get them to do something. And some children would be late coming into school, because [degraded audio] polio or something like that; and it wouldn't--and then after a while, they had teachers go into the [degraded audio] on Saturday, teaching children. [degraded audio] then I went to teach who had something like polio or something like that. And the school board would pay you, for teaching them. You didn't get much [degraded audio] and that went with that. But mostly I thought of- sometimes I would, like on the days of that long Spring, I'd teach after school, but then other times I'd go on Saturday. I know one child now that I didn't teach, but Mrs. Hollands() had him; and that boy would [degraded audio] Oh, he was a big boy, and [clears throat] he became a big-time minister in Washington D.C. at a big church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2237.0,2244.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e He retired not long ago [degraded audio] and she taught him at home till he was able to come to school. That's the kind of work we did, especially because community mothers, because Ruth never got married but I did, but Ruth didn't. She stayed a maid, till she died. [degraded audio] somebody would say well, Luther(?) would call me, \"Miss Awkward, would you play for this person's funeral? They don't belong to any church.\" I said \"Okay.\" They had one of them, some kind of organ [degraded audio] it had two keyboards, I know that; and I said [degraded audio] and I liked it pretty good; so I would play for funerals. My church, sometimes [degraded audio] wouldn't have nobody, I'd play for that church and the church didn't have a program, didn't have nobody; and I said \"Well,\" I said \"You know I have to play at my church first, but if I have some extra, I don't mind helping.\" And all those things you do, you would get somebody to [degraded audio]. And they didn't bother me either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2422.0,2429.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah and now you see the ads in the paper for a church organist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2440.0,2445.599"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now you can't get anybody. Nobody plays, nobody takes music, they're probably out there singing something wild, you know. That nobody ever heard of before. Those good old hymns, like... do you see my keyboard over there? [Cheryl responds \"Mmm hmm, I saw it.\"] My two brothers—the one who's dead and the other [degraded audio] for me for my birthday one year, 'cause I know that they paid over $100 for it. And then I got another thing in there that my one brother gave me about five or six years ago, that I keep in my room in there. I don't play that. I play my tapes and my CDs on there and other records all the time. But I have some good brothers that love me. And um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2533.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what would your advice for the future of the world be? If you could send a message to the world right now, what would it be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576#t=2590.0,2597.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303576/transcript/91237/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e [pause as she thinks] Have some one-to-one talks with the children. Have them to--teach them to like each other. You know, have things together. Talk about good things, then try to keep them away from the evil things. Have as many good things for them to do, because some children really want to learn. And the ones that don't want to learn, well, just kind of give them all the [degraded audio] you can, because they're not going to do anything that's good, but don't let them stop others who want to learn. And sometimes some children will want to stay after school together. I would do that. And give them some one-on-one. Children do better on one-on-one. Now one time, since I retired, and Red Bundy's wife, and... let's see [degraded audio] do you know him? He's part of the [degraded audio]. Amelia Jones—she lives down at [degraded audio] now—she was a high school secretary, and a gem. Well when the integration came, they just sent her out to the white high school [degraded audio]. But we were the ones they depend on because Amelia had everything ready. When they wanted to know something [coughs] about something, they would get Amelia. [degraded audio]. Amelia told me, she said, \"You know, we got some black student that don't have the right attitude up here. And they're not taking part in anything, and so they're not doing any singing, they're not doing- they're not being in plays,\" and said \"We oughta have--we need to have some counselors up here.\" And said, \"Could I ask a couple reliable people, that I know who are reliable [degraded audio], to come up here and talk to these children?\" Well, what they wanted you to do is bring a whole bunch of them. And I told the principal, \"No. One-on-one is what they need. Because,\" I said, \"They don't want to talk in front of the other children.\" And I said, \"I can draw more out of them if it's one-on-one.\" And that's [degraded audio] one-on-one. 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They didn't have- they don't have no more than about two or three black children that would take part in plays and things; and so I [degraded audio] 'cause you know, I just told him \"and we ought to do everything we can to save our home [degraded audio] our home country. So we can make it a great country, we must work together as one nation, under God and we mustn't fight our master, our neighbor, because that's where we'll be [degraded audio]. We need to come together as good Christian people, treat each other right, and [degraded audio] wrong out of our country. We can't keep all letting people do things to us that are destroying us. Drugs are destroying the young people. What good is a drug [degraded audio]? We don't need drugs. Only time you need medicine, better be something the doctor gave you. But not drugs, not these kinds, that a younger person can destroy themselves with. And that's probably the most that I can tell them. And obey your parents; listen to good advice, that older people know something, not everybody is [degraded audio] and not everybody is... is... a way that they don't understand things. And that would be my broad remarks. Learn all that you can, doing what you can to make this a great country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=7.0,14.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Well thank you Miss Fairfax, I've enjoyed meeting you today...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=154.0,158.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I guess there are some things I left out, but I told you about most of the highlights and... 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I said if you think of something you left out--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=169.0,176.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e If you think that you might have some years in there that I missed. But... we go to things now. But we don't go to as many things as we can. I used to go to all those things at James Madison when you buy a season ticket. 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You--sometimes they would have [degraded audio] or they would have choruses or choirs; they'd have opera, and plays of all kinds; and Miss Barbara Blakey, she was a business teacher at the high school. Her husband has a barber shop on that little street around, off of Rock Street, [degraded audio] short Street, has a few houses on it; his barbershop's there. What's the name of that little street? 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They have a few houses down there, and his barbershop was there, her husband's barbershop but... but Black people didn't go back [degraded audio] anymore much. No they didn't, they just went of [degraded audio] stores and things. Lena Ste--Lena Stuart, you know her little store down there on Kelley Street? [Cheryl makes a sound indicating \"no\"] Well, she's dead now. [degraded audio] ...soda pop and ice cream cones and the canned goods; she didn't sell, you know, regular products, but they come and get their goods that they need, you know. Staples you might call it. They wouldn't sell meat and stuff like that and eggs. Unrefridgerated stuff they sold. [degraded audio] ...the son that they had, they just had one son, he died not too long ago. So that's [degraded audio] and all the people in that area miss that store so much because the only near thing now is [degraded audio] [Cheryl says \"Mmm hmm. Food Lion\"]. [degraded audio] didn't come our way they could have a good Food Lion up in this area. They could, but no. [degraded audio] ...that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=254.0,261.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Route 33?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=356.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e I call this Old Harrisonburg over here, and the New Harrisonburg is out the other way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=357.0,363.399"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Out 33? 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But now [degraded audio] my feet again are in pain and I can't get in the car. She always does my driving for me, together, but now we use that new system though. Harrisonburg... service you pay two dollars to go and they take my chair [degraded audio] and then when you're ready to leave, you call them again, and you pay another two dollars, and that's four dollars for a trip. [Cheryl says \"that's pretty good\"] But I'm gonna tell you something, those H\u0026... excuse me, those H\u0026Ws [degraded], they charge you, I think it was $50 to go to Dr. Yoder(?) I took [degraded audio] over there. So I didn't mind that four dollars. [Cheryl says \"no.\"] [degraded audio] ...doctor's office. And then I had a ramp built, [degraded audio] ...is take my time getting on the ramp, into the van, and [degraded audio]. [degraded audio] has to ride with me. 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So good to me. Sometimes, I have--did you see the big picture of him? I keep it on my desk I have a big picture. 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He retired from there. He was 80 when he died.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=512.0,516.799"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh he had a good life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=518.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e We went to church. He was chairman of the deacon board, and I was church organist. They haven't had an organist since. Nobody plays organ. They put a $3,000 piano, in there sound like I don't know what. When I think about all of those days, I think about him. But I don't have a whole lot more to be with him(?). When I do get to church, [degraded audio] J.P. Pringle. And he is, I guess he is about 60 years old, maybe, I don't know. Nice man. And he will take me, get me in the car and wheel me to church up at [degraded audio]. He belongs to that church. [degraded audio] out of trouble. I haven't been to church, but I send dues to church. And people call me [degraded audio] and I'm a deaconess in the church and they call my name, and when I come the minister says, \"It's so great to see a deaconess, Mary Fairfax, today. But they know I can't come every Sunday, 'cause it's too hard for me to get dressed and get in my car to go. And so, and I don't think [degraded audio] on Sunday [calls out] Heather! Heather! 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I was going to tell her--ask her to [degraded audio] on Sunday, but I don't think it does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=648.0,655.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. I think your- the church has to do that on Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=656.0,661.6"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Well they'd take me, and somebody would have to go with me anyway, and then when church would be out they'd come back to get me, but I don't think they run on Sunday. I don't think they do. But that's where that goes. But, I love my sister and my brothers. We loved each other. We didn't go around not speaking to your sister and all that stuff. [degraded audio] very kind, very gentle, very gentle brothers. Yes I remember we went to see Fred before he died. Joe called, told us--called from Tallahassee, he was in good shape then, 'cause Fred died in 1998, and he said, \"You know Mary, we'd best go down to Washington DC in the government hospital, and see Fred, because Fred is sick, and his daughter's come from California, to take him to be with her in California, and we may never see him in life again, which we wouldn't have. And he came by Richmond, he came by plane from Tallahassee to Richmond, and Anne and a friend of hers took--came down here from Richmond, and picked me up. Joe was in the nursing home called Camelot, and I told them [degraded audio] but I would be back for evening. We went down there and stayed with Fred. We went early, we went in the morning, and we spent the day with Fred. That was the last time we saw him alive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=661.0,668.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Well at least you got to see him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=781.0,784.2"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e But he was brought back here for burial, because he wanted to be buried in the same spot as our parents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=783.0,790.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Where are your parents buried at?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=791.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Newtown. And mine I'm buried at--I'll be buried down... what's it called, where my husband is. [Cheryl inquires \"Where's that?\"] East Lawn. [Cheryl says, \"East Lawn.\"]  [degraded audio] We paid for our funerals. [degraded audio] I used to I would be able to make even more for, but it was back in 1998 when he died.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=793.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Your husband?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=836.0,839.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e And my brother Fred died about six weeks after he did. So then Fred--the government shipped his body to Dulles. 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He was really wanting [degraded audio] and Bill is sick and Bill--didn't Bill's wife die not long ago? [pause] No, it might've been Bucky's wife, one of them died. So now I've got [degraded audio] on South Main Street. [degraded audio] ...because I didn't quite like what they did because [degraded audio] under their name. They're not the same. So I said, \"well...\" so we went out one day, Jim and I, and that's when we bought our, we paid for our funeral... East Lawn folks came out [degraded audio] came out. They were going around house-to-house trying to get somebody to buy their lots. And we bought our lot there [degraded audio] 'cause they're hard to get. And then we had the lot, and they said \"Well what about the opening and closing? We did that. [degraded audio] And did you want to [degraded audio]?\" and we said yeah. And then they told us about those metal plates they put on with the [degraded audio]. And Jim's name and everything's on there, and my name's on the other side. So we got that all fixed [degraded audio] my sister's daughter. Well, my sister died in 1995. Now she's been dead [Cheryl says \"ten years\"] ten years. She and I were the oldest, and our brothers were the youngest. But the oldest brother is living yet, but he's very sick. And I'm--was the oldest sister, and the other two were the teachers, 'cause my brother was a professor. When he got his doctorate he got a doctorate in psychology. He went to North Carolina and taught in North Carolina at the college there [degraded audio] what [degraded audio] was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=862.0,869.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e College or...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=1043.0,1046.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e It was college, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=1044.0,1047.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e North Carolina? Chapel Hill? [Mary says \"huh?] Chapel Hill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=1048.0,1051.599"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e No, this is North Carolina... Wilmington.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=1053.0,1056.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eCheryl Metz:\u003c/strong\u003e Wilmington?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577#t=1058.0,1061.0"},{"id":"https://jmu.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3618/collection_resources/166843/file/303577/transcript/91238/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMary Awkard Fairfax:\u003c/strong\u003e Wilmington, North Carolina. Forget the name of the college there, and that's where he retired from. And then he went back home. He lives in Tallahassee and he taught--after he retired he taught one year they wanted him to teach again, and then he taught one year of it again, down in Tallahassee. 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